@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) The idea is that the West is more rooted in the warrior-culture where the bond and intimacy between men is crucial to survival, hence their more lax stance on homoeroticism. However, thought of laying down with men or romantic relation is still very much a taboo, considering that their masculine warrior idea being men have to do the fucking as a top, not a bottom. The family ritual is a reflection of this, though it is more of their thing rather than the region as a whole. As for Gil's fate, this is planned to be a short story with three parts and will likely beco tained within the family and their land. I don't think there is a perfect ending for Gil here, but it begs to wonder what fate would make him the happiest -- whether it is becoming another horny pup, escaping or trying to vanquish the force that corrupts his family, or maybe somewhere in between. The family motto is, "In winter we hunt, in summer we kill". Breeding is something added onto by the malevolent force corrupting them. Or maybe it is part of the original motto, forgotten with time. I do think that Peter and try to ensure that Gil will be having a good time with them. Out of the brothers, I am most at a loss with Jonathan. He is really there to make Gil not the youngest because being the youngest son of a noble house would pile on another set of angst that does not fil the vibe I was aiming for. So he is just...there at the moment. There are themes in the story that I am afraid that I won't be able to convey properly, inclduing body dysmorphia on Gil's part. Describing the transformed appearance is also a dilemma for me, I think. I am not sure if I should keep them as mutated humans with wolvish traits or go full werewolf mode. I'm glad that you like Ruby! I do have a larger role for her in the story.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) Yup, I can definetly see that with Rafaael's thoughts. In the west in this story, to be a bottom is to be seen as shameful as it's not "manly". Very much like the old greco-roman view then. Makes sense the bonding ritual is a them thing though, as it would be derived from the western warrior-culture and bonding rituals, similar in context then to the sacred band of thebes, as well as spartan soldiers. As for Gil, I can imagine him perhaps resisting at first, because he is truly afraid not only for the safety of his family, but others. Maybe he'd join only if he can find a way to ensure that his family and others do not potentially lose their minds to this and wind up causing trouble for themselves or others. Unlike the others however, there likely isn't a way to just directly get Gil involved in whatever transformative affects are going on with the others (though henrich is probably plotting something about that). Peter and the others definetely will try to make sure Gil is having a good time with them. I honestly believe that if they wind up hurting him or worse wind up damaging their relashionship with them right after he came back after such a long time, it would destroy them emotionally. I don't think they'd be able to handle it. Peter would likely completely fall apart- heck, if Gil distances himself because he's somewhat shaken by what is going on right now- it's entirely possible he may well have a really bad time dealing with the fallout. He might feel guilt that his attempt to bring him into the fold not only backfired, but actively made things worse. Worse, he might fear that in trying to make him one of them, he and the others are treating him like prey. That in their new state of mind would likely utterly taboo and horrific. As for Jonathan, he seems to be much more in tune with his heritage- he is a hunter. And hunters are driven, focused and more importantly, known for lethality and intensity, as well as patience. In regards to Gil, he might fully embrace being a beast due to being a hunter already, but he may understand why Gil is so frightened, but may approach the problem by simply being patient and trying to convince him, though in an intense matter. However, his desire for him would likely run hot and passionate, as with the others- he would just be less open about it and possibly more stern in demeanor, but it is there. He too, like the others, is likely displeased that Gil cannot be one of them right from the get go. Essentially, he's the youngest, and perhaps the quietest, but also a very good hunter. However, he still has love for his family and brothers- if he is a wolf, he is not a rowdy, racuous kind- but a cold, methodical hunter- but with no less love for his family. As for body dysmorphia, I feel like perhaps having them only partially transform may be more intriguing. Going full werewolf permanently may be more interesting for shock effect, but I feel that with slight changes, you may be able to portray the body dysmorphia more effectively, as it's less intense potentially. With full werewolf shift and in a permanent manner (no human form at all), it's highly possible that Gil would likely be severely overwhelmed with dysmorphia and the story would realistically probably turn into the entire family having a major moment of realization that they may have just severely harmed their brother by giving him a body that doesn't exactly fit, and then freaking out over what to do. Peter would probably be emotionally destroyed because he'd think he wound up causing such for Gil. Henrich would probably have a major moment of realization that humans might be weak, but he might have just condemned one of his sons to a lifetime of misery which no sexual pleasure or familial love can abate. The other brothers probably wouldn't be doing any better. Unlike them, Gil isn't of their bloodline. So instead of them having fun together, it's likely Gil would be having to cope with severe bodily changes and likely have declining mental health, on top of whatever troubled feelings he has over his brothers actions while they were transformed. Realistically, the story would go from sensual transformative to a raw work on Gil having to figure out how to come to terms with his body, with the entire family having to deal with the fallout. On the other hand, such a scenario could foster an interesting dynamic between Peter and Gil as they come to terms with things. That's not getting into how the family would be able to disguise their changes- if they shift full werewolf and stay that way permanently with no human form, they'd be found out fast- but if it's human with some wolvish traits or being able to shift out of wolf form and into a human form- an air of mystery can ensue. The family may look human, and can be human in speech and act- but they are not just human. It'd be like taking off a mask- becoming closer to their heritage as a house that holds to the wolf- and the family wants that for Gil too. They love him, and they wish that for him too- to be whole with him as a pack. Essentially, they are still human in appearance, but not entirely in essence. It's a more esoteric nature on the matter, but I feel a full shift, with no human form at all, while more transformative, would bring up a lot of narrative challenges that would need to be adressed. Of course, this is your story, and you may do as you see fit. Alternatively, you could have them have a human and wolf form, but the human form has wolfish traits in subtle ways (perhaps more hair, sharper canines, slight claws, etc.), with the wolf form possibly being bipedal (two legged if you wish to go the big werewolf mode style) or quadruped (four legged for a realistic wolf shift). It would mean that they would have to balance their humanity with their wolfish nature, something that could serve as a conflict within the others and Henrich himself, as they need to uphold a human persona and sate their wolfish instincts. Personally, the idea that they still retain a human form in some form while being distinctly non human in some ways make the transformation more subtle, and more impactful. If you mean werewolf in the context of shifting from a human to wolf form, I think it would work well- though the dysmorphia would need to be handled on Gil's end- I think it would be possible. Personally, now that I think of it, the idea of them all being able to transform into wolves, but also having a human form would be very fascinating. Pemanently becoming a wolfish creature however I think wouldn't work though. But again, that is up to you. Personally, I think the idea of them having a bipedal werewolf form and a humanoid form with wolfish characteristics (which are slightly more subtle than their werewolf form) would be fascinating. Perhaps the humanoid form could have slight tells like slight claws, a keener sense of smell, sharper canines, increased strength, and perhaps some wolfish instincts like trying to rub themselves into objects or people to leave their scent, possibly through increased physical affection and intimacy- both sexual and platonic. Their sense may be heightened, and possibly their ability to fight tactically on the battlefield. Their werewolf forms would likely incorporate more animal characteristics, but they would likely retain their rationality to some degree. I think if you go with a werewolf shifting form for them (human and wolf form), then Gil's dysp could be processed by having the family console him and try to make things easier for him as he gets used to things. I do look forward to seeing Ruby. She and Rudolf are adorable together. I hope that even if Rudolf remains transformed, their love does not fade. I can imagine if Henrich tries to pull that humans are weak point on Rudolf regarding Ruby, he'd probably fight for her, or at least show some disapproval. The family probably believes that humans are weaker than they are (which isn't wrong in a physical sense), but I don't think they'd let that get to their heads and make them arrogant (hopefully). As for Gil's fate, I think him just becoming a subservient pup with little emotional intimacy involved would probably be the last thing any of the family want. They love him far beyond just that. Even if Gil took on a subservient role with them, it would be one of devotion on both ends, rather than simply for sex. Possibly a very sensual and rough devotion, but devotion and love oriented nonetheless. However, I think Gil would only let that happen if he could save his family members from going completely feral in doing so. It would also be a way for the family to break from the idea that being the receiving partner is shameful, because if they would still hold to such, they would need to call Gil shameful, which they would never do. I am intrigued over how Gil is going to react to things. What happened with Peter came out of nowhere in his perspective, and he might be very shaken up about it. Peter on the other hand might be at a loss for what to do. I just realized that your mention of werewolf likely meant that gil and the others will have a human and wolf form. So in that sense, my apologies if I misconstrued that.

@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) I think that how much of the rational mind is retained is incremental based on hierarchy, with the family having the same intelligence, maybe even enhanced, while the lesser wolves transformed by them are still humsn to certain degrees, though more outwardly feral. They would be invariably sex-obsessed, however. It would a reason that Gil's conversion has to be a bit more convoluted than just infecting him outright, so that he would retain enough faculties to enjoy the new state of life with them. Jonathan will have a much easier time adjusting, I think, and Henrich will enjoy bonding with his youngest son. They have always liked hunting together, humans would more a more challenging quarry than wild animals. Maybe he could even teach his older brothers avthing or two. When I referred to the body dysmorphia, I actually thinking about Gil's want, actually. He is experiencing the constant dissatdfaction with his own appearance and longs to be a macho giant like his adopted family. If he simply joins them outright and gets the body he desires (ie.becoming another giant dark haired hulking warrior) it would feel somewhat disingenuous and dilutes the theme of familial love that extends beyond genetics. On the other hand, imagining Gil slowly losing his humanity and starting to resemble his family morr and more while trying to deceive himself that he does want this deep down is kinda fun. It's my personal preference, but I dont't like to put my main character into a purely submissive role, especially if there is humiliation involved. It's a huge turn-off for me personally. So if Gil ends up as a pup, he would still get to stand beside his family with pride one way or another. I still haven't decided on the appearance of the transformed men yet though. Being bipedal wolf-men does sound fun. The thing is since the goal of the "villains" here is not total domination, but reclamation of some form, subtlety is not that necessary here. I do worry about Ruby's role though, because she will largely be a plot-driving character who, for obvious reason, won't be featured much in hot scenes. She would ideally not drag the story too much.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) The hierarchy detailing intelligence seems an interesting point, but since that has a genetic component, how that will affect gil would be interesting. I wonder though, if the lesser ranks have more feral tendencies, does that mean they are more animalistic while still retaining intelligence? So still somewhat rational but more beholden to instinct? It'd be interesting to see a lesser ranked wolf be mostly still intelligent but also really feral. Though when it comes to wolves, strict dominance dynamics are more present in captive settings. In the wild, the breeding group holds power and all others hold roles and do active tasks, though there is still a hierarchy of sorts. Though I might be getting a little over analytical thinking which dynamic is being out to play here and how that'll affect gil and the others. In that sense, the lesser ranks becoming feral and not so rational would likely harm the structure of whatever pack is forming here. I might be taking this too seriously though. Okay in that sense gils body issues make sense. I was thinking more in the sense of losing a human form and the issues therein. I guess with gil, even if he becomes a pup, the family will not see him in the light of shaming him as per western custom for being a receiving partner. As for Ruby, I think she could be an interesting foil to rudolf as he navigates his relations with her and the family. Obviously, this story will focus more on the male to male dynamics, but I think ruby wouldn't drag on the story so long as she doesn't just get relegated into not being important. Even in this chapter, i liked her brief appearence- it shows Rudolf has people other than his family that he knows in a positive way, and that the concept of breeding isn't just in a same sex sense. Though rafaael also shows this. A little part of me wonders how the changes would affect offspring or mothers with hybrid children, but that's probably beyond this story's purview. Either way I like ruby's wit and demeanor. As for wolf forms, I think a bipedal form would work. Either with more or less direct wolf traits. The reclamation factor I think would dictate this. Clearly the house of wolfheim knows this wolf is presence that's shifting them. So then it seems an ancestor of the house made a pact with them. In that sense, it's likely they gained some wolfish traits but retained a humanoid body. Otherwise there probably would have been legends of wolfmen amongst the records of the house or in popular conciousness. I think the family members gaining more intelligence due to the shift, while others possibly becoming a bit more feral, but not losing their wits as they are not directly integrated with wolfblood seems likely. I kind of find that fascinating too- gil might think his family is lost to him only to realize no they still recognize and have their senses- they just are different now. I think right now, gil is scared he's lost his family and will be harmed by them. That's the fear Peter felt. A small part of me wonders if in trying to convince gil over, the family makes it clear that even if he looks different he is theirs. That there is no shame in his appearance. He'll probably bulk up, but hin retaining his gold coloration of hair and brown ehes would be a way to highlight that while he may not be of their blood, he is theirs, and nobody can take him from them.

@Anon Thank you for the insight! The knowledge is new to me. I would imagine that the "Wolf-men" in this setting possess the part that is rational and "human" used for conniving and navigating politics, and the "feral" part. The feral part makes every wolf aware of the dynamics ingrained into them. The family are more able to juggle and switch the two at will, and the lesser converted are stuck with the feral side, but their "feralness" would beholden them to their alphas nevertheless, even if they still acted "human". While I have the ending planned, the surrounding details are still up in the air. Whether he remains fully human, partially corrupted, fully corrupted, or whether he looks the same or differently, bulks up a little, a lot, or not at all, there would be an opportunity for eroticism either way. It is fun to come up with different kinky scenarios for our hero. Personally, I do think that whether he has lesrned to accept his appearance or finally received the body he has always wanted or somewhere in between, there would be an opportunity for both hot and heartwarming scenes either way. Either way, the family will learn the joy of being a vers, topping and bottoming for each other like the virile manly beasts they have been turned into. Ruby will be a part of Rudolph's story for sure, but I think her role would expand a bit further than that. The family of course have other people outside of the family they will want to convert. Henrich's wartime friends, servants and the minor nobles enamoured with Raft's charm, Pete's duelling partners, Johny's hunting buddies (his entourage). Once the familial matter is dealt with, they will target them next. To be honest, I try using Ai generated images with different prompt to determine what the best looks for the transformed family and the potential future for Gil would be. I do think I will dtick some of them into future chapters. Seeing that you have already detected the paganistic-esque inspiration for the story, I do hope that I will be able to keep you entertained with the plot nevertheless.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) I see... so it's more that amongst lower ranking members, their natures are somewhat blurred. It isn't so much that they lose their wits, but a more wolfish demeanor influences them in greater degree. However, I suspect qualities which are altruistic or of a more compassionate nature will not be subdued by such a change. We see that even amongst the family, Peter and the others clearly still show compassion for Gil. Peter recoils at the idea that Gil is anything but theirs, and the others are displeased by his fear and do not wish to hurt him. It does make sense that the lower ranks would likely look to the family as their leaders- in essence, it's a bit of a twining of human and wolf dynamics. The idea of the family becoming vers helps break that notion that being a bottom is shameful, which also helps with leaving Rafaael to not be in distress over himself. Them wanting to bring more people into the fold that they care about also makes sense after the family is completed. I do wonder how that would go. Probably just like how this going most likely, with some interesting shifts and conversations per the situation. And yes, as soon as I saw the being Henrich saw, I immediately assumed that a spirit of some sort was involved in this- one that had helped the house prior in the distant past. As for Gil's fate, I think that a major conflict of his right now is feeling that because he doesn't look like a westerner (or is one), he is lesser than his family, and that percolates into why he set out to become a knight and all else- to prove he is worthy of the care they gave him. But his family could give care less about that (his origins), and love him dearly. I think that even if Gil transforms, if he keeps his eastern looks even after being transformed to some degree, it signifies that even though he may look different, he is no less part of the house of wolfheim. He may be a ward, but he is not alien to it. Thus, while he may transform, such does not deny his foreign origin. It also resolves Gil's guilt by making it clear that just because he looks different from his family does not make such shameful. Making him look like the rest I feel sends a message that he only becomes a part of the pack by looking like them, which is something that we see the family categorically rejects as a belief in this story- they don't care that he looks different, or is smaller than them, or not related by blood to them- Gil is theirs. All in all, I think even if Gil transforms to some degree, him keeping his eastern looks but also being a part of the family showcases that the pack doesn't care about how Gil looks, but love him for his loyalty to them- as a brother and as a son. He may be different in his origins, but he is theirs. Though of course, this is your story, and you may do as you please. I do look forward to seeing Ruby again- I loved the tender yet witty banter between her and Rudolf. And yes, using AI software (in this case images) to see how a story's outcome or how a scene looks can be fascinating- I've done such in the past myself often out of curiosity's sake and while it can be kind of a hit or miss situation at items, sometimes they can generate things that can be very insightful.

@Anon Vassals or pack members, they would look up to their masters all the same. Unlike in Knightly Duties, the story here is much narrower in scope. The family will always be the focus, and they will like employ the "convert first, talk later" approach here. I do have reasons as to why wolf-men conversion spreads easier here than demonic one, which will be touched on a bit later later chapter. The story will also be largely Gil-centric, each additional member added to the pack will serve to warrant some reactions from him. While I will avoid spoiling my planned ending, I do hope that you will like Gil's ultimate fate. Altruism, philosophically, is very hard to define. In corruption stories, I prefer that loving intimacy be retained, but does the retention of affection for their loved one equates altruism? Just because you do not want to hurt your family does not mean you can't be absolutr menace to others. And intrinsically, transforming someone through dubious consent is rather icky, morally speaking. It is a really interesting topic.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) I think when it comes to altruism, we can see that with the transformed there is affection for their loved ones. Had they fully fallen into simply wanting pleasure of a physical sort, even that wouldn't be present- it would unbridled hedonism without any affection for anything- which one usually sees in a lot of transformation stories- which if read straight would plainly be horror stories (there was a story I read once of a man's family being taken over by an interloper and being essentially thrown out of it as they were transformed- and frankly it read less like something erotic and more like a tragedy). The dubious nature of the transformation does leave ambiguity on the matter, but the intent is to bond with their loved ones and be closer, not to hurt them, which is at lest a positive-ish intent, though the forcible nature of such a change is also there. We see this with Peter- he does want Gil to join them, but not in fear. He does not want to see him as prey- he could have easily just redefined Gil as a foreigner due to being adopted and done as he wished. That could be chalked up to the fact that he was part of the "pack" already in a sense though. However, in my mind, honoring kinship to an extent is a form of altruism, as you don't always do it out of self-interest, but of a lesser sort as it's of the in-group. However, in accepting Gil, who was never theirs by blood, they show that they can be altruistic or kind to others. While the wolfmen could potentially become harmful or a threat to others, the years they served as head of the lands will likely temper that- to them, all of their people are likely potential packmates that just need to deepen their connection (I may be extrapolating from your point that after the family is changed, they will likely change others). Or they may see them as vassals to protect, as they had been when they were human. They may believe that humans are weaker than what they have become, but since they are their people, they will still protect them. Either or. Outsiders that seek to threaten that would be the enemy. Those that do not get in the way of that would likely be seen as neutral- not enemies, but not as close as those within the pack network. I think it depends on what they see their prey as- is it just their enemies, or just anybody? Granted, the convert first approach does leave some ambiguity here, they might justify it as doing it for one's own good, but well...it's a murky situation. If it's the latter, then yes their altruism will be limited, but if it's only the former then it can be preserved. Based on their house ethos, there is nothing that has them believing it's a "us versus the world" scenario. Only those who actively seek to war against them are their enemies. If it had been the former, Gil would have likely been treated poorly due to being an "outsider", and would ironically confirm Gil's self-doubt. Since they reject that, there does not seem to be reason to believe that they will simply treat all outsiders as enemies, and thus cruelly- unless they of course seek to harm them or those they care for. Wolves as a whole can form bonds with non-pack animals- that is essentially how dogs were invented. So the idea that they would have no ability for altruism or at the very least positive connections with those outside of their circle would be somewhat strange. Perhaps they would be more oriented toward providing for the pack first, but for it to be fully annihilated seems somewhat implausible. I think this also depends on if the spirit transforming them is truly wicked, as well as the family's ability to retain aspects of their humanity amidst the changes. You make a fair point that one can be kind to one's loved ones, but for the sake of necessity or any number of reasons cruel to others. Yet in their relations with Gil, it's clear they can accept outsiders who accept them. However, we also see that to some extent, their mental faculties right now are somewhat compromised. Between that and believing their current state is better, it explains their conversion method. It's not exactly the most ethical approach, but it makes a kind of sense. Henrich feared dying, and so to them, transforming into this new state would mean being able to live longer and be with those you care for- in that sense, giving this "gift" is only a way to help further this aim- there is of course a more self-serving inclination in this as it's about his family- but I can easily see the family rationalizing this to apply to all they wish to change. I think that due to being more animalistic, what might occur is that they might become more lethal and ruthless to those they see as the enemy or harmful to their loved ones. How they navigate this change however is key, if they simply indulge in that, they might wind up applying the same approach to inter-familial disputes, which would likely make them have to re-evaluate things. Navigating both aspects of themselves is likely something that will occur, most likely with Gil as he's not of the family himself should he be changed.

@Anon I have, of course, read the story you mentioned. While I understand the appeal of such stories and indulge in them sometimes, I often feel too bad for the protagonist that I could not finish the story. It's a paradox really, if that particular story had not been written so excellently that allowed me to relate so much to the protagonist, I would have finished it just fine. Still, the inherent eroticism of the corruption story, at lesst to me, the characters' moral decay and the need to spread that decay to others in a manner that makes them obsess with corrupting others into more like them as well. This trope can be expertly subverted, of course, but in order to preserve the eroticness does require an expertise that I simply do not possess as of now. I am very glad for your insight, it is honestly not the things I had in mind when thinking of the story, but it is amazing to see and discuss ideas beyond my own authorial intent. However, I will admit that the core kink that inspires my story is being turned "evil" (or at least, extremely hedonistic) by a intimately trusted and beloved figure of authority and turning your loved ones "evil" so you can enjoy the chaos together. The emotional intimacy is a secondary theme that usually naturally follows. Mosr of my favourite works on this site employ the tropes yo certain degrees. I am honestly surprised that the theme is not as prevalent in corruption stories. There will be things left open for interpretation in this story, of course, and I might one day attempt to write stories with the core idea being the subversion of usual corruption tropes.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) Yeah that story was just...honestly by the end of it I just wanted to wring the neck of the person doing the transformations- the second to last chapter essentially had the victim have a mental breakdown over losing his family and the chapter after having him essentially be treated as a neighbor to demean- I really couldn't finish it. I tend to have a habit of overanalyzing what I read, and often times many transformative stories usually leave me wondering about how despite all the sensual pleasure, the emotional damage and loss implied in them would mean that for many others within these stories, these would be horror narratives. In contrast, while there is definitely a malevolent factor with those doing the transformations in your tales, there is ultimately a motivation of wanting to share joy and love with those that are being transformed. It isn't just simple malice, though definitely dubious, and there are darker elements. The ambiguity makes things feel more realistic, more tender, and more terrifying at times all at once. This ambiguity of love and madness I think is something I've been fascinated with from since I was young. Growing up, there was a story I was taught of a woman who went mad in love over a man she knew while already being in a failing marriage (scandalous I know, and what makes matters more complicated is the man she fell in love with had feelings for her too, but was also in loyalty to her husband- who had been neglecting his marriage to said woman- soap opera dynamics frankly), and how that love wound up destroying her and healing her through her life, and her pursuit of being with him nearly led her to all kinds of less than ideal actions, though it ultimately became a way for her to change herself. Some variants of the tale had the woman marry the man years later, having her regain her youth and live with him after all sorts of strife and trial. There, that woman became the tempting influence where she wanted to share her love with the man she loved and break free of her marriage which was failing. Of course, since this was a more moralistic tale, the woman winds up foiled in her plans, and has to struggle with her actions and her legitimate grievances in a society that doesn't care about them, often trying to resolve those grievances in ways that tragically only make things worse. She is at times a villain who has a point in a way, a sympathetic heroine in a bad spot, and a penitent. Yet her desire for the man- her love for her- that never is seen as an issue- if anything the tone of the story is always "well why wouldn't she fall in love with him?". Her story has been told for a thousand years, and while it's not always the one variant spoken of- many see her as just the corrupting influence, but what can I say- I like complexity with characters in stories. Similarly, Henrich and his sons single minded pursuit to be with Gil evokes memories of that tale- of the woman's drive and desires- to me at times. Of course, this story's ending will likely be something a little more ambiguous in nature. It was in all rights a sort of madness that drove that woman amidst her love, much like how the family's desire to be with Gil drives them now and their desire to spread their state of being. Another story involved a man becoming so solely focused on his love for a woman he could not be with that people called him to be possessed (he never was able to be with her)- it eventually drove him to his own death, and the woman wound up pining for him till the grave (they are of a tradition of stories of lovers who never are with each other, yet love anyway). In your story, there is something similar- the love Henrich and his sons have for each other lead them down dark paths to an almost obsessive like quality and it envelops them near entirely to a point of madness, but while there is what could be construed as malice, the intent in it's entirety isn't malice. That's what makes it both somewhat heartwarming and terrifying, and so much more impactful. The love you show between the characters becomes a drive for them to become ever more feral and in some ways unhinged as we see with how Henrich and the others begin to change, and yet it becomes a driving force that at times oddly stabilizes them from going completely off the deep end, as we see with Peter to some extent. It showcases how love can drive people mad, and yet bind them together- how it can be heartwarming as much as it is horrifying. I think for me, the moral decay here is so fascinating to analyze because as you show in your stories, many times their decay is often seen by those who have been changed as trying to help others. With the knights, William is half mad over seeking out pleasure, but a major motivation to take over the kingdom is to avenge his son (who is still alive and is going to have to deal with the fact that his "death" caused his family to spiral into insanity). Here, Gil is going to have to face the complicated fact that his family hasn't just been turned into monsters- they are still there- and that complicated balance between duty and love will be tested to it's limits for him. It's a slippery slope of intentions and executions, of if the ends justify the means, of horror and love and how they intertwine upon each other, and exploring that dynamic is fascinating. I think for me, hedonism at it's peak and it's darker state is to seek out pleasure and not care of anybody in the way- which is often the case in many transformation stories. Here though, we see hedonism wrapped around love- and what comes out of such is equal parts tender and terrifying. That I think is what I find so fascinating about your works. In keeping the emotional intimacy, the characters seem more human and more real. In that sense, your dynamic of the "evil" trusted one seeking to corrupt his loved ones to share their pleasure and joy is in it's own way from the perspective of the corrupted a kindness. It's an interesting inversion of most stories which often have transformations occurring from a position of seeking to cause malice. Yes, I do find it fascinating that the idea of spreading a corruption because a person feels it would make them feel better is not seen more. As for subversions, I do find many of the stories by naedre to be good examples of this in some cases, though that could be influenced personal readings. Regardless, wherever you go with this story, I will be intrigued by whatever path it takes.

@Anon Those tales sound really familiar....but the name still eldes me, sadly. On the topic of characters spreading corruption with intimacy and "kindness" involved...there is actually one particular erotica, not on this site, that borders so perfectly between horror and tenderness, but the ending is so irrevocably dark (and not in the abuse replacing love sense) that haunts both my wet dream and nightmares alike. I think it is basically about a father and his two sons visiting a cabin by the beach and get transformed into Lovecraft-ish sharkmen -- not sure about the policy with mentioning work from other sites, though. I think that voyeurism is a part of hedonism. Seeing your loved one becomes as corrupt as you are and see them fuck others, it essentially means that you get to fuck one more person than you would be able to otherwise. This story is a prequel of sort to Knightly Duties, set about half a century in the past. While not necessary, this story will better expand on the dynamic and culture of the kingdom, especially with regards to the Knightly Orders and their patron deities. Thank you for the recommendation!

@[SpiralSpyder](/user/show/10002861) Hey man, you have no idea how good that feels to hear. I keep coming back to this comment, though I know I haven’t responded. What you’re saying is exactly what I’m trying to do—wild, raunchy sex in a world where people are still real. Thanks so much. And don’t think I’ve forgotten about your stuff either—I’m just too busy to read often, but I definitely have it in mind. Thanks for the kind words!

@[Speaks](/user/show/964546) Thank you for the endorsement, “John”! I really enjoyed writing this for you and hearing your story!

@[Speaks](/user/show/964546) I'm so happy you were able to relive the experience exploring a different outcome. I hope the process was nice. Looks like HappyTrance took really good care of that :blush: I also wanted to say that the plot falls right into HappyTrance's scope. It felt very close to those "who's the boss" dynamics present in "Revenge and Other Games". You can imagine my surprise when I read it's actually based in a real story. Thank you for commissioning this story and for allowing it to be here out in the open. P.S. The reference to The Beatles was also your idea? I was waiting for the moment we would be introduced to a character named Ringo :grin:

@[Speaks](/user/show/964546) Well, I guess the hypnosis work of your real life "Paul" still needed some work that you even considered saying "no" to his "request". Hot story, thank you both. I love this concept of two boys hypnotizing and controlling each other - with consent. but while crossing borders that they wouldn't have dared to cross without being mind controlled.

@[DaymionMC](/user/show/10033419) Thank you so much! I rarely get comments on one of my old stories, and I love every single one. And I'm still trying to find the muse to write more, so this is helping a lot! # :kissing_heart:

@[EJG](/user/show/1050471) It would be fun (and very hot) for Gil to witness everything about his beloved home turned corrupted by the hand of his own family, until his allies all turn against him, preferring to fuck and kill and breed and spreads the impulse to others over joining him in any pitiful rescue plan. I do want the best of both worlds, though. I am debating whether to keep things ambiguous, or to commit to either route. Hope that you will still like the story either way.

@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) My admiration will not be tainted by whatever the path you take.I have nothing but positive enthusiasm for you. To quote Shakespeare...'Lead on,McDuff,'

@[EJG](/user/show/1050471) Sure thing, Mcbeth!

@[texas95](/user/show/10020267) Thank you! What are the things you find hot in this story, if I may ask? I always seek to improve.